Tyson Fury actually explained to Oliver Holt of the London Daily Mail how he was able to win the psychological war with Wladimir Klitschko – even though this interview was done two weeks before the fight last weekend it’s a very interesting and revealing read —
Tyson Fury: Yes. To be honest with you, I know Klitschko is a devil worshipper. Oliver Holt: Right. TF: They are involved in bigger circles and stuff like that and they do magic tricks and whatever. OH: Do they?
TF: Yeah. Yeah, you can go on YouTube and watch him playing with magic and all that sort of stuff, Wladimir, and all these rock stars and singers and these famous people, it’s common knowledge that they are all involved in a cult group of Satan worshippers and all that sort of stuff. There again, a man who does evil things and worships an evil one, how can he win over a man who wants to do good things and preach good stuff? It ain’t going to happen. He can’t beat me now. Now I know what he is, a devil-worshipper, I know he has no chance of beating me. OH: And now you know what you are?
TF: Basically. He has no chance of beating me now. God will not let him defeat me. Not at all. I am almost 1000% certain that he can’t beat me through what he does and his actions and what I do and what my actions are. If I want to do good things and do good to others and try and help people and that and you’ve got a man who wants to do bad things and preaching bad stuff and is all about money, gain and holding everything close to him and evil stuff conspiring and all that sort of stuff. Who’s going to be victorious in the long run. OH: It’s an interesting point of view. Generally I think the Klitschkos are seen as boring and not particularly good for the fight game but I think the general view of them is as vaguely decent people but I guess people haven’t looked…
TF: I’ve figured them out. We’ve figured them out. We’ve been on to them. We’ve studied background, the lot. We’ve really come up with what they are. A lot of these famous people, successful people, they are all members of cult groups that worship the devil in different ways. Maybe I’m going to get in trouble. Maybe I’ll have someone come here and try and assassinate me for saying it. OH: Well, they’re powerful people, certainly, aren’t they, within Ukraine, I think, for sure?
TF: Very much so. And you know, good overcomes evil and he who practices evil will never prosper. They live for this world. I don’t. The be all and end all of everything is their careers and money and what they can do and what they can achieve in life. My be all and end all is passing through here, trying to do a few good things on the way, helping people, it’s all about a test for me, going to a different planet, a different place, a heaven, where we are promised better life. If I can make it there, that’s my ultimate ambition, is to go to heaven. It ain’t about winning the titles for me. I’ve often said it’s not about belts, it’s not about all that sort of stuff and what they think success is. People think success is being rich and having a nice house and driving nice cars and being Mr Flash. Success isn’t that. Success is being happy and content in yourself in what you are doing in that period of your life. OH: That can give you a fearlessness in the ring. TF: That’s why I’m so fearless. OH: We have seen that before in other fights. I’m going to forget the guy’s game now but when Eubank fought the Irish guy…
TF: Steve Collins. OH: He was very unsettled, wasn’t he, by Steve Collins because he felt that Steve Collins had an edge over him psychologically and the same thing, this kind of talk, may have the same kind of effect on Wladimir. TF: I think it has already. Wladimir is a control freak. He loves to have everything under control. He loves to know everything is there, there. Everything is placed right, the lot. He is very, very controlled. Everything is channelled. Everything he does is thought and planned out. It’s all about routine for him. So when you get someone who doesn’t value him for the sake of like…He tells people to look left, they look left. He says look right, they look right. He tells people how long they are going to interview him for, he tells them how many snaps of photographs they are going to have. He’s in control of everything. When he walked into that press conference in London, he was in control of nothing. He was in the unknown territory. He had never been there before for a long, long time. It was about the Tyson Fury show. It was nothing about Klitschko. His speech, his talk was boring, it was long, people were falling asleep. He even said himself ‘try to stay awake for the next ten minutes’ to the crowd. I’m inside of his mind. How I know this is because Wladimir does a stare off and then he says ‘okay, no problem’ but look how long he wanted to prove he wasn’t bothered about me for. Dualpro is very similar to the phone tracker dualpro shine case we saw for iphone 6 plus last year. He was stood there. I was looking at him and I had him. I had got him involved, out of his zone, involved in a fight, there and then because he didn’t want to look away. He didn’t want to look away. I had him. I had control of his mind. He says he’s a psychologist and he’s going to give me therapy and all this but I was already inside his mind on the day. I had drawn him into psychological warfare there and then because he was worried that if he would look away I had an edge on him. It doesn’t really matter but it mattered to him on the day. I got him to admit when we sat round the table that he is a manufactured fighter. I don’t know if you saw that or not. We were sat round the table and I think he was expecting me to be all jumpy like I was at the press conference an hour before but then when I sat down, mind change, sensible, calm, cool, collected. He’s on the back foot. He doesn’t know what to do. He was preparing for me to go full attack then. In fact, I was reserved and spoke to him as a sensible man and knowledgeable about boxing. I had him right into himself through things I witnessed through my own eyes and we were there together and he said he couldn’t remember what I was talking about. He remembered certain assets of what I was talking about but the main bullet points he couldn’t remember those. But he knows and I know he was lying. It’s like us being in this room now, we are having this conversation about you and then me saying ‘I never said it’ but you know and I know I did say it so you know I am lying to you and everybody else so I have already lost that battle because we know it’s the truth’. So he done that. And then I was going on about how he’s a manufactured fighter. And then he said ‘you know what, I am a manufactured fighter but my brother’s not’. I said ‘you don’t need to tell me, Wladimir, I know you’re a manufactured fighter, thank you very much for admitting it’. He must be kicking himself because I laid traps every time and he fell into them, fell into them, fell into them. That’s why he called the fight off. He wasn’t injured. I even said to him there and then around the table ‘you’ve got the same look in your eyes as when I was going to fight David Haye. I see fear of the unknown and unpredictability. I even see you getting an injury. You might even get injured on the plane home. ’ The next day, injury and he’s out. OH: If you win and obviously you believe you are going to win and many people believe you’re going to win, how will you use the platform of being the world heavyweight champion. TF: Like I said, I’ll use it to spread the good news and the good word and try and do good things with the power I have at this time of life rather than doing bad things and getting involved in showing off and bragging and bouncing up and down in a big car and with a big watch. I’m not about that. I’m about spreading the good news, doing good things, setting up charities, rehabilitation centres that I’ve only just started to be. I’ve done bits and pieces throughout my career but now I want to be more involved, hands on with people. I don’t know if you saw it recently but I had a bit of a time in going on about politics and changing the communities and setting up places for alcoholics and drug addicts, all that sort of stuff, come and change their life, rather than just people talking about it and saying ‘oh, he’s a drug addict, him, avoid him’. I want to change the people who need help. Not just saying, you should go and get some help but hand it to them. OH: Do you think this embrace of faith that you’ve had, you said in many ways you have had a disordered life and disordered childhood, that faith brings some order to that?
TF: Yeah, definitely. I’m all about faith, me. Without faith, I have nothing. Like I said, I don’t believe in the world itself. I believe in an afterlife. So if I then deny what my morals are, then I’m not a man or nothing else. I may as well just be nothing. Have no gender. .